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pizzapie250

It's like if someone asks "What's cotton?" And you respond "My grandmother's favorite shirt." It's great you like your grandmother's shirt so much, and maybe you'll inherit it someday, but this kid has not clue what cotton is and has never seen your grandmother wear that shirt, because he's two-and-a-half years old and only saw your grandmother once when you went in for lemonade while she was visiting. Plus, it's actually 30% polyester anyway, so it's not really a good representation of cotton. You don't have to take the kid to pick cotton, of course, but at least tell him the first time "It's a plant used to make some different fabrics" so that when someone asks him "what's cotton?" He doesn't say "my best friend's grandmother's favorite shirt". Welcome to the metaphor torture chamber, by the way.

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fairyathena472

I've found a loophole to this-

 

I say "Which one, the musical, or the person?"

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"Okay then."

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pizzapie250

But in this instance you're talking to someone who doesn't know about either.

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I tend to respond with:

"A musical about historical figures."

....and peggy

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pizzapie250

"Cotton is my grandmother's favorite shirt which is made from a plant."

Also, Peggy Schuyler was a real person. Her real name was Margarita.

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teallynx171

I like Hamilton but it frustrates me to no end,I mean there are people that think Arron Burr is African American,No he would be a slave.Also if you ship any characters (Besides Lams) that aren't a couple,some of these characters probably never actually met.

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@Kitsune

My favorite sarcastic remark to people thinking Burr was black: "Yep. The civil rights movement came in 1540. The civil war was fought in an alternate dimension before our country existed. That's how come Aaron Burr was the first black president."

Shipping people who never met: "They knew it in their hearts." But this one has to be done with the right emphasis/tone, or it might be taken seriously.

Hey, this would make a good mockumentary.

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*Vice president 

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It annoys me too.

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pizzapie250

I've even heard teachers do it. And don't ask me about the librarian . . .

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teallynx171

Lams is real though since there's a letter that says straight out "I love you." Also for people that ship Jefferson and Madison can I point you to these Dolly Madison? Dolly Madison is awesome,she's probably in the top five,if not three first ladies.Also Angelica Schylur was married by the time Eliza married Alexander,she might have had a slight fling but it wasn't a full on love.Also they got the Duel between Eacker and Phillip wrong,They both held their guns up until Eacker went Nah and shot Phillip,cue his death and a mentally unstable sister

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That's not even the best proof among their letters. The most appropriate maybe, but not the best. I wonder what's in the burnt letters . . . I really can't find anything non-platonic between Madison and Jefferson. Alexander did flirt a bit with Angelica, but there wasn't much past that. The Eacker duel bothered me too. Shot at seven? Yeah, right. More like shot after a long stretch of silence in which neither young man wants to take the life of another, and Eacker finally cracked. There's a lot of other problems I'm too lazy to pick out, too. 30% polyester.

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So what is Hamilton?

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A founding father, most noted for his founding of the national bank and major contributions to the constitution.

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Very funny, Clockwork. Not what I meant.

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But it's what Hamilton actually is.

 

This is my rant excatly. I mean, I'm fine with people being excited about the characters and stuff, but that's all that they are. Characters. All the Hamilton fanart and fanfics, and stuff are based off of Lin Manuel Miranda's representation of actual people. Is it a better representation than most? Yes. Is it done very well, and deserves all the attention it's getting? Yes. But is it a 100% accurate documentary? No. Like you said, it's 30% polyester. I hate it when people assume that because they watch the musical and listen to the songs, that they are officials on historical events from that time period. No, no you're not. You do have a good understanding of the general timeline from that era, but there are so, so much that was left out. These were real people, with real ambitions, feelings, intrests, motivations, and thoughts. If you only think of Thomas Jefferson for being overbearing and rude, you obviously are not a historian. 

 

If the musical leads people into studying history, I think that's great. More's the power to them. I'm also okay with people enjoying and watching the musical, and simply enjoying LMM's characters. But they need to realize that they are characters, based off of real people. You can still enjoy books and movies that are based off of a historical event, but you would never mistake the people in the plot to be the actual people that participated in whatever event we're talking about. 

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@Azalis

Then what did you mean?

 

@Bobcat

I admire the way you can get your point across with the right expression of absurdity without needing a bizarre simile.

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Well... :]

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Exactly. These were real people are real events...not just stuff for others to fangirl and ship people over. 

 

(Seriously. These guys existed like 100 years ago.)

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What's Hamilton?

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@Bobcat 

The italics make me scared I offended you. Did I? Because I honestly do admire your clarity.

 

@Embyr

There are people who fangirl over the real Hamilton with little interest in the musical. 

(About 260, actually.)

 

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A founding father most often acknowledged for founding the national bank and making major contributions to the constitution.

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Thank you, but I was just messing around. ;D

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People will always be

critical

They'll make the personal

political

They'll try to knock you off your pedestal, your

pinnacle 

Let others be 

cynical

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@Bobcat 

Oh, okay! :D

 

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What?

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I meant what do you fanpeople about so much? I know who Alexander Hamilton was. We had an entire unit on him and Jefferson

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Remember, school does everything humanly possible to make history seem boring. They want to "spare the feelings of the children," so they get rid of anything overly angry, stupid sounding, questionable relationships, too violent/bloody, etc., and they have an extremely limited time, meaning they have to stick to the basic information. They basically bleed the thing dry. There's actually immense potential for dramatic fanfics, jokes, so on and so forth. 

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Let's agree to disagree, Clockwork. I think that school is good at what it does. Or at least... I got all the best teachers, so I'm biased

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I have good teachers too. My history teacher is fantastic. His teaching is not only efficient, but fun and random, and I think of him as an equal, so he has my respect. He puts lots of energy in it, explains important social aspects well, and has us practically crawling over each other to act stuff out. Plus he's an ex-cop, so he had some bizarre stories to tell about the fourth amendment. Still, even the best teachers are bound to the curriculum, and want to keep their jobs. So you seem to have misinterpreted where my lack of appreciation lays.

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*Lies

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I should probably also say that I understand why the curriculum can't allow full detail. It's just that you can't fully judge a subject by what you learn in school.

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